I wonder if this is the same defensive mechanism among maintenance personnel that used to be common back in the 70s and 80s when fuel injected cars were becoming the norm or do they know something about 912is we dont..? * leaded, unleaded, AVGAS 100LL, Ethanol 10** max. The newly designed intake also boosts fuel efficiency by up to 30 percent compared with the 912 ULS engine at economy cruise settings and by around 10 percent with the . At this setting the 914 is making a lot more horsepower that a 912. You do not have permissions to reply to this topic. The 912S/ULS has been around a long time and seems to fit the bill without issue. The iS, by the way, has dual-injector electronic port fuel injection in place of the ULSs dual Bing carburetors. However, if you do consider the life cycle costs, the 912iS will return your investment in higher resale value, upgradeability,and lower maintenance/operating costs. Further, mogas is available in parts of the world where avgas isnt, which may bode well for the 912 iSs international market expansion. Lets do the same thing for increased weight, complex, and night. by MrMorden Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:23 am, Post If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. The Rotax 912 series is well regarded for its reliability and efficiency and is primarily targeted as . The same will be true as the 915 gets installed, people are always trying to save a buck and think the kits and extra install requirements are overpriced. 75mm, P.C.D. Disadvantages? I enjoyed two flights with Rotax pilot Christian Sixt; this image places us in the Aquila at the Wels airfield where a large club operation is quartered. The single lever requirement is what caused the altitude compensated carbs to be implemented versus amixture control so it is likely the FAA will remain steadfast on this requirement. Ive been loving your reports! Dan, The 80hp (60kW) versions are sufficient to power the new generation of efficient motorgliders, such as the Pipistrel Sinus and the Urban Air Lambada. Forgive my ignorance, but if a 912 ULS or 914 UL engine loses electrical power, what happens to the functionality of these carbureted engines? That's a $12,700 price premium or about 9 percent. We expect the 912 iS overhaul costs to be higher than the ULS, but we dont yet know how much higher. One difference from prior experience was the Stock Box instrument (more formally, Stock Flight Systems Engine Monitoring Unit or EMU) developed by Michael Stock incollaboration with Rotax. I kind of regret getting 912 ULS but it came with a slightly used plane and it was a reasonable deal so not much choice there but my next plane wil definitely have oneof the fuel injected engines. 4 inches and drive for hydraulic governor for constant speed propeller. Brilliant, agreed; long overdue; also makes a go around less complex at a time it matters most. Rotax-Owner.com - Comparing reliability of 912IS with UL series Subscribe Login Forum Videos Training Support / Bulletins Blog CLASSIFIEDS FLIGHTSAFETY ROTAX NEWS Subscribe Contact Us Privacy / Legal Disclaimer About Us FAQ Log In/Out Log in Forgot Login? [I] am planning to add an Airmaster electric prop. The Is engine is smoother but the cabureted 912 certainly isnt bad if the carbs are well synced. By using our website, you agree that we can place these types of cookies on your device. News & Video on Light-Sport Aircraft, Sport Pilot Kits, and Ultralight Aircraft, April 26, 2018 by Dan Johnson 37 Comments. by jetcat3 Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:21 pm, Post Marc indicated that 200 915iS engines have been delivered into the Rotax network including distributors around the globe. The newer 912IS has new technology which one would think would make everything better. Starting was as with any Rotax 9-series engine Ive ever flown. In our family we have also had two 912ULS powered planes, and one 914. kicktireslightfires, Jun 16, 2020 #1 Ghery Touchdown! Why? Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Messages: 10,820 Location: For decades I owned and flew numerous CS set ups with aseparate prop control and think I would prefer that. To receive critical-to-safety information on your ROTAX Engine, please subscribe toROTAX-OWNER.COM. Motor as the sport upgrade already done. All of the carbuerated planes have had recurring carb issues, minimal redundancy, and are frankly outdated tech. This engine series offers a time between overhauls of 2,000 hrs and the best power to weight ratio in its class - no surprise that this engine is the best selling 4-stroke engine. You have declined cookies. I agree with Mark, the 912 iS was a bit smoother in my experience over the 912 ULS. [Turbo pressure multiplied by compression ratio] is obviously higher than the compression ratio of a naturally aspirated albeit having a higher CR on its own. Paste as plain text instead, Toying with the idea of adding a second aircraft to my stable. Just make sure you know what you're getting into. Would love to see some pics of your install. The Rotax 912 is a horizontally-opposed four-cylinder, naturally aspirated, four-stroke aircraft engine with a reduction gearbox. Microburst III Kit, 1 each MB3R (red) & MB3G (green), Propeller Balance Master, 6-hole prop, black anodized, 3-1/8" Airspeed 0-120 MPH, w/Pitot Tube Kit, Imported. The non-certified 912 iS targets the light sport and homebuilt aircraft market and 912 iSc will be certified. The 915iS fuel injected, turbocharged, and intercooled engine can produce 141 horsepower for five minutes, then sustain 135 horsepower indefinitely. If the one for the engine fails it automatically switches to the other stator. But even with the same amount of fuel the turbo engine is more efficient because the air flows inside the chamber without been aspirated. 80mm, P.C.D. by Warmi Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:15 pm, Post Tecnam is now offering either a Rotax 912iS or a 914 Turbo in its P2008 and Astore LSA's. The gearbox has proven to be generally trouble-free. [7], On 1 April 2014 the company announced its new 912 iS Sport upgrade with greater power and torque and reduced fuel consumption. Over the eventual 2000-hour TBO of the 912 iS, the engine will use a whopping 2800 gallons less than the ULS, for a savings of $16,800. He also explained that (perhaps surprisingly to some readers) the 915iS compression ratio is lower to allow for the turbo boost. Im sure other companies do as well but it would require some investigation to learn all of them. A numbered limited-edition engine in a unique color design with a personal certificate 100 and 200-hour maintenance kits Its numbers rival diesel performance. In addition, Mitter collected broader data that showed that the 912 iS is slightly more efficient in climb than is the ULS. Their state of development appears good now but prices need to come down and regulations need to be completed as presently forecast. Will you be at the DeLand Aviation Showcase? Glad you liked the article. (Both will remain available for now.) A highlight for private pilots and enthusiasts, this limited-edition design of our popular Rotax 912 iS Sport aircraft engine comes with a unique service and warranty package. I prefer a supercharger over a turbocharger anyday. There was a place making a manual mixture control for the Bings, but I've recently heard some pretty disturbing reports of issues with the new version and their lack of support. Its quite a bit more costly and is more power than needed on Aerotrek. [1] Originally available only for light sport aircraft, ultralight aircraft, autogyros and drones, the 912-series engine was approved for certified aircraft in 1995.[2]. The compression ratio is one thing the pressure inside the combustion chamber is another thing, in a turbo engine the the air is forced inside the combustion chamber in a normal engine is aspirated, thats why even at lower compression ratio the pressure inside a turbo engine is much higher. You do not have permissions to reply to this topic. Production started in March 2012 and the engine has a 2000-hour recommended time-between-overhaul to start. The electronic fuel injected Rotax 912iS is a recent development. Change Cookie Consent Cost of getting spun up to service an engine with such a small installed base. The complete package presents the latest technology in the aircraft engine industry and will enhance the flying and ownership experience of pilots. When I hear negativity about the 914 it is nearly always from someone who has never flown behind one. 4 inches, Shaft with flange for constant speed propeller P.C.D. Electronic fuel injection requires electrons. Flying the new 915iS in an Aquila light aircraft. List ByDanJohnson.com all LSA Services each one verified to have the airplane or expertise you seek. We also are interested in engine overhaul specialty center with state of art facility available for immediate. A new Airmaster propeller has arrived; it is a beautiful piece of After a 4-month break, we are back at it. That smooth power is such an upgrade that it becomes a different class of airplane, especially out west where that power is needed and useful for high percentage of flights. Carbs are never "better" in terms of performance the only potential benefit of using carbs would be that , in some scenarios, they are simpler to troubleshoot and fix and don't need electricity to run. Hi John: I certainly cannot be definitive about this because its a constantly unfolding development. As yourself this question.. Thomas Uhr, head of Rotaxs Austria plant and a longtime engine expert and enthusiast and also a pilot advises the highest octane auto fuel, preferably without alcohol, to get the most power and best results. I would buy another 912iS if I were to build another A/C. We have excellent design capability skills available in metal or composites. Flight Design's base price on the 912 iS version of the airplane is $152,500 versus $139,800 for a comparably equipped 912 ULS CTLS. Climb was 1,000 fpm. Dry sump forced lubrication with separate oil tank, automatic adjustment by hydraulic valve tappet. Price does not include shipping. Is Rotax similar? 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